This is an important discussion to have , especially if you have kids. I remember as a kid hearing the term dirty money but didn't fully understand what that meant.
Today dirty money is two fold-
1) money you didn't earn by working or adding to society
2)money you got by stealing, fraud or conversion
The first type of dirty money is an ethical question. The second type is a legal issue.
There is some overlap and grey areas inevitably. However , the underlying issue in both is moral and has massive societal implications.
For example, a homeless person goes into 7-11 and steals a 6 pack of beer. Cops are called , the homeless person is arrested and the community seethes at the "massive amount of crime" in their neighborhood.
Alternatively, a county supervisor , elected and swore an oath, takes $3 million dollars during COVID 19 intended to feed seniors and it's crickets from the community. I only found out about it because a local news agency wrote a story.
Now, to me the county supervisor should be on the chopping block. Can you imagine the moral ineptitude it requires to steal 3 million dollars and then the cherry on top. The money went to his daughter to buy a second home.
Unfricking believable! The Genesis of this behavioral/social shift I highly suspect is related to the legalization of gambling , especially the lottery.
I want to thank James and everyone in this group who encourage , and in good ways, demand further thought and exploration.
Given the typical police tactics we are all familiar with, we should have expected them to tell Chapman "just do XXX and you can prove your innocence" like they would to any citizen.
Maybe now we know why it took so long to open the door and check.
I watched this video some time ago and wonders some of the same things. Good to get at least some accountability, but telling, that we watching are almost relieved that SOMETHING happened to this cop at least.
While watching the video I thought the cop had stolen the money. The rubber band pop was specific evidence enough to convince me. Every cop there knows that each of them has "lifted" something of value from "offenders", money being the least traceable. Years ago I went to collect rent money from a "ticket parlor". Illegal but allowed because the parlor bought Buck A Cup tickets from cops. That is just one story of many I have had personal contact with. Thanks James for the blog and piercing and illumilating questions in this case. We are in deep trouble indeed with LEOs.
I also felt the same way like something else was going on. And how many times have you seen an officer be apologetic to a civilian when taking them into custody and taking their weapons (and still being allowed to stay at his desk til the investigators get there) and asking him if he is ok, asking if he needs water, asking if he needs anything and, most infuriating, apologizing to the guy who just stole all the money! Then, in a longer video I saw, they discussed whether they had to bring him into the interrogation room like every other criminal.
Is it justice? Somewhat. But the Just Us/Just Them kind of justice we discuss so often. How many regular civilians would have gotten the same deal with no jail time? AND to put the cherry on the top, he quietly gets his pension besides? That's not justice, that truly is more like, "Sorry you got caught. We have to take your badge as damage control but we will give you your full pension instead, ok? Oh, and by the way, someone caught wind of it and we have to release the footage now so it will go viral. Take a long vacation and it will probably blow over before you get back." 🙄
I agree that there is "something rotten in the state of Denmark".
This is an important discussion to have , especially if you have kids. I remember as a kid hearing the term dirty money but didn't fully understand what that meant.
Today dirty money is two fold-
1) money you didn't earn by working or adding to society
2)money you got by stealing, fraud or conversion
The first type of dirty money is an ethical question. The second type is a legal issue.
There is some overlap and grey areas inevitably. However , the underlying issue in both is moral and has massive societal implications.
For example, a homeless person goes into 7-11 and steals a 6 pack of beer. Cops are called , the homeless person is arrested and the community seethes at the "massive amount of crime" in their neighborhood.
Alternatively, a county supervisor , elected and swore an oath, takes $3 million dollars during COVID 19 intended to feed seniors and it's crickets from the community. I only found out about it because a local news agency wrote a story.
Now, to me the county supervisor should be on the chopping block. Can you imagine the moral ineptitude it requires to steal 3 million dollars and then the cherry on top. The money went to his daughter to buy a second home.
Unfricking believable! The Genesis of this behavioral/social shift I highly suspect is related to the legalization of gambling , especially the lottery.
I want to thank James and everyone in this group who encourage , and in good ways, demand further thought and exploration.
Dave
Given the typical police tactics we are all familiar with, we should have expected them to tell Chapman "just do XXX and you can prove your innocence" like they would to any citizen.
Maybe now we know why it took so long to open the door and check.
I watched this video some time ago and wonders some of the same things. Good to get at least some accountability, but telling, that we watching are almost relieved that SOMETHING happened to this cop at least.
I'm glad he was held accountable
While watching the video I thought the cop had stolen the money. The rubber band pop was specific evidence enough to convince me. Every cop there knows that each of them has "lifted" something of value from "offenders", money being the least traceable. Years ago I went to collect rent money from a "ticket parlor". Illegal but allowed because the parlor bought Buck A Cup tickets from cops. That is just one story of many I have had personal contact with. Thanks James for the blog and piercing and illumilating questions in this case. We are in deep trouble indeed with LEOs.
Thanks again for the deeper dive.
I also felt the same way like something else was going on. And how many times have you seen an officer be apologetic to a civilian when taking them into custody and taking their weapons (and still being allowed to stay at his desk til the investigators get there) and asking him if he is ok, asking if he needs water, asking if he needs anything and, most infuriating, apologizing to the guy who just stole all the money! Then, in a longer video I saw, they discussed whether they had to bring him into the interrogation room like every other criminal.
Is it justice? Somewhat. But the Just Us/Just Them kind of justice we discuss so often. How many regular civilians would have gotten the same deal with no jail time? AND to put the cherry on the top, he quietly gets his pension besides? That's not justice, that truly is more like, "Sorry you got caught. We have to take your badge as damage control but we will give you your full pension instead, ok? Oh, and by the way, someone caught wind of it and we have to release the footage now so it will go viral. Take a long vacation and it will probably blow over before you get back." 🙄
I agree that there is "something rotten in the state of Denmark".